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I have struggled with the “Americanization” of Orthodoxy in America. I have been called “sanctimonious” among other things, yet no one has challenged me on the merits of my positions, about which I am willing to be wrong.

For me, Orthodoxy has just become another profit, not prophet, center in America. It is “trendy” and commercialized. The first thing that I noticed was the lack of single women coming into the church, as well as my own wife’s experience in our conversion. I do believe there are many priests who mean well, and are “good” men, as far as any of us may be said to be “good”.

Then I noticed that it’s all polemics, mainly against the Jews and liberalism, eschatology, or even metaphysics. It seems to me that there is no “body” to the church. I have been working on something where I am exploring in the light of being a type of denial of Chalcedon, or rather Christ’s being fully man. It’s like Gnosticism. It’s an overcorrection to Rationalism. What it is not, is simple faith, the “Orthodoxy of the Heart” spoken of by Father Seraphim Rose. I didn’t find brotherhood. I found an almost militant and angry faith that points its finger saying “thank God I’m not like that man”. It’s really too much to put within the confines of a comment on an article. But it suffices to say, something seems very “off” on many levels.

It was Berdyaev who opened my eyes to the fact that the institution of Orthodoxy, and Orthodoxy Herself, are two different things. I’ve begun to wonder if it will be destroyed as was The Temple in Jerusalem.

Thank you for sharing your insight. Makes me feel less “alone” if that makes sense. Anytime I attempt to discuss these things, I end up contending with logical fallacies rather than actual opposition to my statements, and never am I corrected with love. Kind tells me I touched a nerve, honestly.

I would love to discuss these things further. But I could see the institution of Orthodoxy collapsing, yet The Church remains eternal and unblemished. I don’t think Americans can separate the two. It’s almost like we blend elements of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism and bring that baggage with us into the church.

Ben Rickert's avatar

sincere question. I ask humbly and respectfully and in no way attempting to be confrontational nor to disagree.

How is this different from any western protestant confession attempting to justify their position.

As a western person I've heard many "justifications" for any number of practices.

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